-- -- fogler senior technical editor of photovoltaic -- magazine reporting from solar power international 2011 in Dallas Texas. My guest disk curt Thompson of dollars solar welcome to the show Kurt thank you. Now my first question for you -- this I know you just came from the commercialization panel session. -- give our viewers run down what what was discussed where their solution is so that emerged from the panel. No I think it was a great -- -- around commercialization and the challenges around -- ability. What it takes to crossover. Value that valley of death. It's a concept. Capital spending. A concept. Reducing the risks associated with different types of TV technology. And and ultimately. Are around. Crossing over just bridging from a great idea to selling -- commercial product. Where there's some solutions that emerged or was it mostly just a lot of discussion which. We know is necessary but sometimes -- -- solutions don't emerge. -- -- I think -- there's commonality in different industries we had membership from CTV. On the Dow Chemical was talking about -- -- -- ITV. And then we also had some individuals from the financing arm. And really talk about what is required to to achieve. Thank ability to reduce your risk profile so that someone would invest -- you to give you the funds to scale up. Talking about reliability. Talking about. The challenges. Changing market conditions and how that can impact. The opportunities to to commercialize -- product. Also talking about cost profiles and -- -- -- it's really important to truly understand it cost profile. I'm an early stage so that when you're spending big dollars and scaling up. You have a -- line of sight. Commercial viability. Now you mentioned reliability. And I wanted to get into that with you because. You recently announced -- you. Actually commercialized. Your BI TD product. But it took quite a few years of of development to did not and it was reliability that you were working on. It's a really exciting time for us about two weeks ago we have not announced the launch the -- power -- It's it's it's -- culmination of about four and a half years of effort in developing this product. We started with the concept. And and we were actually yesterday. Back and now looking at at different times throughout the years and the first concept was actually asphalt -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- So we've really come a long way. But. -- but also you know during that time. We have commercialized product. Which which is we think revolutionary in that it is both functional building products. As well as -- -- And so what we're trying to do is is to redefine -- To change the roof from a depreciating asset to a a -- product. That will pay for itself over a portion of its -- And and so -- the time -- -- associated. Is correlated to the challenges. That we saw. We're commercializing a product on thin film six technology. And develop become module. That has only been around. You know since we started this program. And so develop -- accelerated aging tasks. And in core relating goes to field and it does take some time. And we started. -- about two or three years ago. Having -- the first field day and so it's important to have some lifetime for that -- -- so that we can correlate our accelerated aging program. To that field it. Now also wanted to ask you -- -- trends in residential solar. Aside from of course redefining their room. Yeah and I think I think it is about design. And functionality. The difference in residential solar is people are making an improvement to their home. Like -- top counter tops -- Remodeling the bathroom. Your increasingly asset value and the -- repeal of your home. And so requirements are a little bit different. There's a heavy emphasis on those fanatics. Also around the -- liability. Warranty and safety. Well thank you very much.